Abu Ghraib Photos Released in Australia
These aren't new photos, they are just photos unreleased to the US public to make sure we don't get too uppity.
by MG at 4:23 PM
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Wednesday, February 15, 2006Abu Ghraib Photos Released in Australia
These aren't new photos, they are just photos unreleased to the US public to make sure we don't get too uppity.
by MG at 4:23 PM
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This was blown way out of proportion
I can’t believe that members of our military are serving hard time for doing their jobs.
Granted, Lindsey was not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree but she certainly did not deserve 10 years.
That was NOT torture.
I hope that one of President Bushs’ last acts will be to pardon the soldiers.
Our enemy targets woman, child and innocents.
We must protect our troops at all costs.
If this means setting their heads on fire and putting it out with an ice pick, then fine.
There are 1.2 Billion Muslim’s.
If just 10 percent of them are extremist’s; that equates to 1.2 million enemies.
That’s 1.2 million determined to kill your loved ones, including your children.
"This was blown way out of proportion"
Iggy
CBS News: Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters, "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. we're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience." He did not elaborate.
Blown out of proportion???
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld offered "my deepest apology" Friday to Iraqi prisoners abused by sadistic military personnel and warned that videos and photos yet to come could further inflame worldwide outrage.
"It's going to get a good deal more terrible, I'm afraid," he said glumly in congressional testimony
E&P: A military report about that abuse describes detainees being threatened, sodomized with a chemical light and forced into sexually humiliating poses.
"Charges have been brought against seven service members, and investigations into events at the prison continue.
"Military investigators have looked into -- or are continuing to investigate -- 35 cases of alleged abuse or deaths of prisoners in detention facilities in the Central Command theater, according to Army Secretary Les Brownlee. Two of those cases were deemed homicides, he said. (...)
"A report by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba on the abuse at the prison outside Baghdad says videotapes and photographs show naked detainees, and that groups of men were forced to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped. Taguba also found evidence of a 'male MP guard having sex with a female detainee.' (...)
Seymour Hersh, who helped uncover the scandal, said in a speech before an ACLU convention: "Some of the worse that happened that you don't know about, ok? Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men ... . The women were passing messages saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened.'
"Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out."
Iggy, You can’t believe that members of our military are serving hard time for doing their jobs.??!!??
Please just STFU because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. If you truly believe what you said and you were aware of that which you speak, you would be one sick sick disgusting individual.
Iggy – what you said is obnoxious on so many levels, I’d run of skin on my fingertips typing the reasons why. Run along now, there’s probably one hiding right under your bed!
Mox – I noticed the subtle facelift of the site…nice work, lookin’ good baby!
"Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out."
You really buy this?
This is really sick to think that our troops are BF'ing little boys.
Given odds by numbers of troops, and chance of a sick person like this being assigned.
We would need millions of troops in the mid-east for the odds.
I don't know a single person who would stand there and watch a woman or child being abused!
WOW....
The left hates America that much!
The Liberal, the real weapon of mass destruction!
Usama must love you all.
Jeremy! A woman never discusses her plastic surgery! ;p
Iggy - you didn't hear about the abuses women and children went through? Where the fuck ya been? I'd go searching for the link now, but I have to get going to my class... Can someone else please enlighten?
And, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's okay to abuse and sodomize men, but you're outraged if it's women and children?
If the Men are terrorists.
Like I said, set their heads on fire and put it out with a ice pick! If it will save troops, or expose a terror plot.
How can the left buy that Americans and our troops are SO bad, such MONSTERS! ?
You live here in America, to know different.
This is propaganda
Well Mox, you could start with this:
The new classified military documents offer a chilling picture of what happened at Abu Ghraib - including detailed reports that U.S. troops and translators sodomized and raped Iraqi prisoners.
The abuses took place at the Hard Site, a two-story cinder-block unit at the sprawling prison that housed Iraqi criminals and insurgents, not members of Al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations. In one sworn statement, Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, detainee number 151108, said he witnessed a translator referred to only as Abu Hamid raping a teenage boy. "I saw Abu Hamid, who was wearing the military uniform, putting his dick in the little kid's ass," Hilas testified. "The kid was hurting very bad." A female soldier took pictures of the rape, Hilas said.
During the Muslim holy period of Ramadan, Hilas saw Spc. Charles Graner Jr. and an unnamed "helper" tie a detainee to a bed around midnight. "They . . . inserted the phosphoric light in his ass, and he was yelling for God's help," the prisoner testified. Again, the same female soldier photographed the torture.
Happy reading Iggy.
yes, and the same military personnel may have committed thiose crimes stateside. Every week at Camp Lejeune it was ritual to get the base paper and immediately turn to the back page and see who had been covicted of what, and how much time they received.
The behavior of individuals does not make the war unjust, nor is it an indictment of the entire US military.
Besides, I cannot muster much sympathy for people who use children as suicide bombers, who would behead my children if they got the chance, and who would use WMD on the US if they had the capability. I save my bleeding heart for the 3 year old child at my son's school - She lives with her mother and lost everything last week in a house fire. They escaped with only the PJs they were wearing. My heart, and my wallet opened up to them. That is something that is worthwhile. Some guy/gal in Iraq or whatever sandland who kills people over satirical cartoons? If someone in the states did that the left would brand them as nazis....but if they oppose us they are victims and heroes.
Thankfully, I just don't understand it
I have a problem mustering sympathy for people who would behead my daughter and use WMD on the US if given the opportunity. The same people use children and young girls as suicide bombers.
I save my bleeding heart for Americans who need help...like the money I gave for Katrina, or the shopping spree I went on the other day for a 3 year old girl who attends my son's school. She and her mother escaped their burning apartment with only the PJs they were wearing. That is something worth sympathy and caring.
On the other hand, former VP Al Gore spoke to a group in Saudi the other day..Clinton was paid $267,000 to speak to the same group. One of the sponsors was the Bin Laden Construction company, or whatever the name.
Thankfully, I just don't understand the left.
Sorry Moxie, I thought I clicked off before that one posted. The first one was best, remove the second if you wish
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No, the US wouldn't ever order the use of a weapon on an entire city in such a way that it killed hundreds of people, many asleep in their beds, including little girls and boys. We would never just blow up homes without knowing exactly who was inside and kill innocent people, including children. That's because we are so much better than those terrorists. We're Americans.
That's why as Americans we don't torture people or ever kidnap innocent people off of the streets and send them to countries to be tortured. because we are better than that.
It's ok in some sick idiots minds that it's somehow ok to recklessly kill people, innocent and foe alike, who had the misfortune of being born in a different country than theirs with planes and missiles and laser guided smart bombs but it would be sick and morally wrong for someone else to be willing to sacrifice themselves or fight back with whatever shoestring munitions they could put together against the most superior military in the world.
I can't buy into that ethnocentric line of thinking. Because if any person, government or any other entity ever purposefully killed one of my family, especially one of my children, I wouldn't hesitate to avenge their deaths in such a way, especially if there was no other means available to bring the persons responsible to some form of justice.
You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had.
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I heard that Gore made $200,000.00 (plus expenses) for trashing us out.
Saw reporters wearing Orange hunting vests.
Well got to go put the speedo's and it's off to MA.
Suffice to say that the people who are doing time deserve it. They were cut from the same cloth as those who would cut ears from slain foes in Vietnam. My only issue with it all is that the upper crust got off too easy.
It is unfortunate that there are such people in the military as Graner and England. Trust me there are many more just like them. Most of them just talk alot, and fortunately they are never put in the situation where they are able to act on their words.
Today's NYT: American commanders in Iraq are expressing grave concerns that the overcrowded Abu Ghraib prison has become a breeding ground for extremist leaders and a school for terrorist foot soldiers....
We're breeding terrorists because of our detainment and torture policies. We've killed at least 28,000 Iraqis, but more likely it's over 100,000.
Our CIA says that Iraq provides terrorists with "a training ground, a recruitment ground, the opportunity for enhancing technical skills," and that there is even, under the best scenario, over time, the likelihood that some of the jihadists who are not killed there will, in a sense, go home, wherever home is, and will therefore disperse to various other countries."
There have been 2,471 coalition deaths, 2,268 Americans, one Australian, 101 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, two Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Hungarian, 26 Italians, one Kazakh, one Latvian, 17 Poles, two Salvadoran, three Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians in the war in Iraq as of February 15, 2006.
All for what?
Lies is all the people who started this war have given us. 237 misleading statements about the threat posed by Iraq that were made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld, Secretary Powell, and National Security Advisor Rice.
No wmd. No iraq al qaeda connection.
All for lies.
so when someone says something like "Our enemy targets woman, child and innocents.
We must protect our troops at all costs.
If this means setting their heads on fire and putting it out with an ice pick, then fine.
There are 1.2 Billion Muslim’s.
If just 10 percent of them are extremist’s; that equates to 1.2 million enemies.
That’s 1.2 million determined to kill your loved ones, including your children."
That is racist, sick and ignorant.
Pure brainless uncaring bigotry.
Luckily Robert, there are laws against torture both in America and internationally so we don't get to decide when it's appropriate or when it isn't, based on selective emotion (i.e. people who rob banks don't get tortured but those who blow themselves up do, because you know, the second one is just inexcusable and makes me angry).
Also - most of those at Abu Gharib,and in Guantanimo for that matter, are not terrorists. At Abu Gharib, most were petty criminals or those in the Iraqi "penal" system.
You act is if we had rounded up massive groups of Al Qaeda or known terrorists operatives. Instead you have more people that stole food than you had actual terrorists.
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