Cindy Sheehan Gets Smeared Some More
My goodness, it's as though the dead speak to this weird Michelle Malkin chick when she said
She just CAN'T believe it! I mean who would ever think that a son would approve of his mother's need to protest the war he died in and her (very reasonable) efforts to get Bush to talk to her. My god, the GALL of that mother! She should be ASHAMED OF HERSELF!
And Bill "falafel" O'Reilly, describing her actions as bordering on treasonous! Well doesn't THAT just nail her bahavior on the head! Camping out in front of Bush's vacation property with the desire to talk to him, doing nothing but standing there or giving interviews - yep, that is treason if I've ever seen it! Let's HANG HER!
Or it could just be a bunch of self-righteous dweebs saying nothing of great importance. Decide for yourself.
UPDATE: Due to the overwhelming comments to this topic (thanks for stopping by!), I would like to say something about making a comment. Feel free to state your opinion, but for fuck's sake, if you're going to quote something or someone, put the LINK where you got the info so people reading it know you didn't just make that shit up. I am curteous enough to put links where I get MY info, and I am nice enough to allow everyone the opportunity to stay anonymous, so do the MINIMUM amount of work to back up your claims, please.
"I can’t imagine that Casey Sheehan would approve of such behavior."
She just CAN'T believe it! I mean who would ever think that a son would approve of his mother's need to protest the war he died in and her (very reasonable) efforts to get Bush to talk to her. My god, the GALL of that mother! She should be ASHAMED OF HERSELF!
And Bill "falafel" O'Reilly, describing her actions as bordering on treasonous! Well doesn't THAT just nail her bahavior on the head! Camping out in front of Bush's vacation property with the desire to talk to him, doing nothing but standing there or giving interviews - yep, that is treason if I've ever seen it! Let's HANG HER!
Or it could just be a bunch of self-righteous dweebs saying nothing of great importance. Decide for yourself.
UPDATE: Due to the overwhelming comments to this topic (thanks for stopping by!), I would like to say something about making a comment. Feel free to state your opinion, but for fuck's sake, if you're going to quote something or someone, put the LINK where you got the info so people reading it know you didn't just make that shit up. I am curteous enough to put links where I get MY info, and I am nice enough to allow everyone the opportunity to stay anonymous, so do the MINIMUM amount of work to back up your claims, please.
by MG at 2:51 PM
217 Comments:
I don't agree with how the GOP'ers are bashing Sheehan. She DID lose her son after all. However, I wonder why she has flopped her position on the war. I understand that last year, she met with Bush after her son's death and said she "felt better" or something to that effect. Now, she's on the rampage. I wonder what happened?
Peace to you and yours ok liberal.1ST Drudge took her statements out of context. From Raw Story-
rawstory.com/news/2005/Drudge_Report_grossly_misquotes_antiw_0808.html
The orginal story www.thereporter.com/search/ci_2923921
She like so many others may have changed her mind. When can someone speak out and not be called on a "rampage". She is waiting patiently for Bush, hardly a rampage. Your words reminded me of a local Wash DC coverage of Feb. 2003 Anti American-Iraq War protest that I took part in. We were decribed as "young radicals" that were yelling at the cops while demonstrating in Lafeyette Park. I was 42 then, my bud who was with me is 8 years older than I (he had a 5 way bypass a week later) the 80yo woman(devout Catholic, her stride was maybe 6", and later knocked down by DCPD) who marched with us and about 1/2 the crowd of about 1,000 could not be mistaken for young. We were blocked from going into Lafeyette Park because it is a "Security Zone". WE of course were not yelling at the cops but the man in the White Palace who the cops were "protecting". The only reason I watch/listen to the MSM is to see what is left out that the Mighty MIC does not want me to know.
Cindy Sheehans statement to Veterans for peace can be found here http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
William Rivers Pitt just interviewed Mrs. Sheehan and the says the video should be availible in a couple of hours.
your fellow Human
Again, two camps become painfully obvious. A) Those who want to know if they were lied to in order to get us to invade Iraq, and B) those who don't.
Those who don't tend to be grand apologists for the w, Rove and Co. and in some respects have become reichwing fairies doing Rove's work over various media outlets to discredit anyone with the balls that W obvoiusly doesn't posess.
Michelle Malkin is traditionally insane.
Attacking Cindy Sheehan for changing her perspective on Bush and Iraq seems a risky strategy, at best. And I suspect that hauling her off in handcuffs is more likely to create a martyr than it is to stifle dissent.
With public support for the war in Iraq at a steady decline anyway, a lot of people may sympathize more with the mother demanding answers than the knee-jerk Bush supporters trying to shut her up.
Umm...if memory serves me, didn't a mother once track down Abraham Lincoln to do the same exact thing way back in the day?
Peace to all and Good Mornibg! The William Rivers Pitt/Cindy Sheehan interview hsa now been posted -
www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
along with ongoing updates. u gotta scroll down for the interview.
Also the center of resistance in Crawford is the Peace House. Check out the site - www.crawfordpeacehouse.org
Reading the about the genesis and all the good work done inspired me to send 10 bucks. Heck they just got thier phones reconnected after being shut off due to lack of funds.
A challenge - If ya can't give, bring a smile to someone who needs it. If you leave your house today, you will most assuredly run into another who sorely needs one. Be it the cashier at the Supermarket or the cop giving you a ticket because you were going too fast.
your fellow Human
Cindy should stop her bitching and get behind the other troops. No one told her son to join the armed forces. Infact I would bet the bank that he had her approval when he signed up. No one likes war or the loss of life, but its a fact of life. We have war waging on our streets everyday in this country. Tell Cindy to jump on that band wagon. gjm3863@yahoo.com
Just because someone questions Bush or protests against him doesn't mean that they do not support the troops in Iraq. I think Cindy just wants the truth about why her son had to die in Iraq (considering the original reason turned out to be BS). Yes loss of life is a result of war but if there is no legitimate reason for us to be in Iraq then how can little georgie-boy justify the death of Cindy's son or any other soldier in Iraq.
btw... Cindy has every right to bitch if she wants to. Just like you and I enjoy that right.
What Mrs Malkin actually said:
"She has aligned herself now with Michael Moore, who considers those very Iraqi terrorists Minutemen. That's what he calls them! He's likening them to the American revolutionaries and considers them heroes. I can't imagine that Casey Sheehan would approve of such behavior, conduct and rhetoric."
So she's criticizing Michael Moore.
lets see theyve smeared war heroes and gold star mothers they have ignored washington's admonition they are what eisenhower warned us about. any one who speaks out is silenced or ignored why dont they bring back the sedition acts why dont any of you liberals understand that george has a plansince they hates for our freedom hes going to take it away problem solved i cant believe all yu well educated elitist snobs havent figured it out yet
Could have Cindy come to realize that Bush lied to her about the reason of the war? A good share of Americans do, Losing a Son for the enrichment of the Oil companies is not really a honest trade off. I do not blame Bush entirerly, but our representives wholied to and then voted for this war of profit for Halliburton and the Bush administration.
Why is this plan still obscure?
Is it because they don't want the insurgents to know the plan? I mean you can't get behind a plan if you don't know what the plan is.
And a plan is not a plan without
details. And why don't they have
Iraq talk radio for open dialog in
Iraq?
As the wife of a 15 year Air Force Sgt. I feel that Mrs Sheehans son would be sorely disappointed in her. If he was an sort of military man, he had a calling(if he did not then he never should have joined the military in the first place). He VOLUNTARILY joined the military, he was not forced into it. My husband has told me on numerous occasions (after watching family members of fallen soldiers on TV demanding to know why, or bad mouthing our country and it's ELECTED leader)that if anything ever happened to him that I better never act that way as this is his choice and he knew what he was signing up for. If it was ever something that he did not believe in he would leave the service. My husband is a proud man and proud of his country, he knew when he first signed his enlistment papers all those years ago that by doing it there would always be a chance that he would go to war and that the reason for the war may not always be black and white, but once again it was always his CHOICE, he was never forced. And as someone that loves him unconditionally I have always supported and been proud of his choice and would never want to sully his name by questioning his choices or making an ass out of myself by blaming "the system" for the result of his choices. No matter what comes of his military sevice I will always be proud of the fact that he is man enough to stand up for what he believes, and I would always honor his memory by never questioning his choices or his intelligence in making these choices. I feel that the family members that start acting this way are basically sending the message that their child, spouse, sibling, parent or whoever was not intelligent enough to realize that by joining the military there was a chance that they may have to go to war, and yes, they may die. It isn't summer camp or the Boy Scouts, it is the UNITED STATES MILITARY, the greatest military in todays world,whos members are humbly serving and protecting 24 hours a day 7 days a week, so I can write this comment.
Thank you proud Military wife... It is about time someone realized he knew what he was signing up for. Being that I live in the town casey was from , I can tell you... we all know if you join the military...you know you maybe going to war and you may die, they tell you this before you sign on the line and in boot camp. I know I have been there. But I will sit back and let people talk about the war and how they feel about the president. The reason I sit back ... because while I am sittting out there in the 120 degree weather wanting to be home with my family... I realize I fight for your ability to do just that.
Yes it is great to be proud of someone who blindly follows orders, I guess Adolph Hitler enjoyed that his soldiers were too stupid and believed in him so much that they would do whatever atrocities he ordered them to do. We are in Iraq because of a lie, plain and simple. Can you dispute that? No, it's been proven. But peoples sons, daughters, husbands, wives, fathers, mothers etc.. dying over a lie, is okay, because they are doing it for the great U.S. of A... My God people, when will you wake up and figure out that just cause the U.S. supports something doesn't make it right. your apple pie mentality is the exact reason that most other countries don't like the U.S., and saying "well we're the last Super Power" is the same as saying the bully that tormented you through junior high and high school was justified in his actions. Just because we are a mighty nation doesn't mean we are GOOD. We created Osama Bin Laden, we trained him, We put Saddam in power, we still support Saudi Arabia, we still have not done much of anything to Syria. People in this country hate Iraqis, when it's insurgents from Syria, Saudia Arabia, Afghanistan etc... that are killing our youth in Iraq, the great majority of Iraqi people support us. We wasted so much time in Iraq that we could of spent on finding Bin Laden. How could our politicians of gotten so greedy to put dollar signs before their own fellow Americans??? Our politicians at the Government level are primarily millionaires, what more do they need, they're already rich!!!
I guess where I wrote,
"If it was ever something that he did not believe in he would leave the service" was over your head.
He is not blindly following orders. Your comment did the same as the the family members, you just questioned the intelligence of the entire US military. As for the Hitler comparison, his agenda was more on the lines of Saddams, to eliminate people that he felt were inferior...hmmmm how many Kurds did Saddam poison?
As you(Anonymous) wrote ..
"....the great majority of Iraqi people support us."
Why do they support us? Maybe the reasons for the war were wrong, but can you honestly say it was a bad thing to take Saddam out of power and to give the Iraqi people the freedoms to elect their own leaders? Or should we have left him there to torture and enslave an entire nation? Are you being "blindly" led by your thinking? Can you only focus on the "lie"? Or are you capable of seeing the bigger picture, the difference this war has made to an entire nation of people.
Either way, the very nature of my husbands service ensures your right to voice your opinion.....and yes I am proud of him for it...
This poor woman is used for those with an anti Bush agenda. They should be ashamed!
There are many countries who's dictators do the same things, but because they go along with our "agenda" we show them a blind eye, how bout we go and help those people, how bout your husband goes and helps those people, how bout the media doesn't glorify the actions of the military like "Black Hawk Down". how bout your husband and his fellow troops volunteer for Habitat for Humanity and build houses for people, how bout all kinds of things, but how bout this one thing, our soldiers, your husband included, dont die for a bullsh*t reason........
Ms. Sheehan I agree it's horrible to loose a child, but make your son proud, give it up, go home and visit the Revlon counter.
On the contray, I am neither republican or democrat, conservative nor liberal. I am merely a person who has the intelligence to form her own opinion and not be led by the rhetoric of either side, something you are clearly not capable of. Please.. carry on with your anti Bush agenda.
Her son knew what he was doing when he signed up for the military. He knew that there was a possibility that he could go to war, and there was a chance that he would die. That's war. Get over it and move on with your life. Get back to work and stop milking the system. I really do not feel like paying her to sit there and protest day in and day out for something that is not worth while. Get a life. Honor your son by doing something with your life instead of wasting it.
this lady needs to relax...we all grieve with her for her lost but how many others have lost relatives in the war..we dont see them making a scens on the news...Bush does not owe her anything but his sypthathies. her son decided on hiw own free will to join the military with the full understanding that he could be killed...its in the contract...Bush did not kill her son....simple as that...this lady should grieve nad move on...blaming the president is not the way to go, had he not joined the military and Bush went into iraq, her son would not have been killed so fault cannot be put on our president...this lady needs to grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a soldier in the US Army and a proud one. I have lost friends over there but I will not forget them. This mother can not blame the President for what happened. Her son was serving his country proudly and bravely. It is sad that she lost her son like so many others, but she knew her son was serving his country. The president is doing what him and congress decided to do, and that is what is best for the country. So instead of harassing our commander in chief; support our troops, there families, and display some patriotism. This entire Bush bashing is so pathetic, you may not agree with his decisions, but he is who the majority selected, so back the country and hold your breath. Show a little more respect!
Just for the record, my husband does volunteer for Habitat for Humanity, Meals on Wheels, and is volunteer firefighter for our community. And when our son was younger he was also a volunteer little league coach, and has been a Big Brother. And on weekends, he and his troops can be seen along the side the road cleaning up trash,that is when they are home and not building houses and schools in foreign countries, or helping rebuild after a natural disaster. The military is not all about war.
Ms. Sheehan lost her son over oil...Frickin'oil and Bush's power hungry ego!
My heart goes out to this mother. The loss of a son is something that is painful to even contemplate. However, whether most want to admit it or not, this country is at war for our very survival.
I believe she is a victum of the leftist in this country who would like nothing better than to see us loose this war.
At every turn, the Bush cabal uses the tradgedy of 911 to justify their fascist plans. They are truly the grief pimps. Mrs. Sheehan stands for what she believes in.
To USAF(AND NO I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ARE, JUST LIKE I BELIEVE YOU ARE A REPUG)JUST THE FACTS LADY. NO WMD. NO SADDAM-OSAMA TIES (KEEP YOUR FREEPER LYING LINKS) NO THREAT TO AMERICAS SECURITY. You, by your support of the fascists help enable them in murdering my fellow Humans. You are the traitor to America and the Human race. I've had enough lies from the sick bunch who support Bush. Pull your head out and breathe the fresh air of reality.
HEY, WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE A FREE COUNTRY, AND THE PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSE TO BE WORKING FOR US SO YES HE SHOULD HAVE TIME FOR A MOTHER WHOSE SON DIED. NO MATTER WHAT SHE BELIEVES. AND THE PEOPLE WHO CRITIZE HER...WELL...IGNORE THE JUDEMENTAL AND TELL THEM TO GET A LIFE.
A M.Moore stunt. She had her meeting in June 2004. No better way to disrespect her son and what he died for. The world is a better place thanks to the President.
When are the Iraq War supporter going to admit the woman is correct in her request. Her son died for a series of lies. Boringly NO WMD's, no CHEMICAL or BIOLOGICAL PLANTS or WEAPONS etc.etc.Her original grief was with the understanding his death was for an honorable cause. That has proven to be a LIE, what don't you zealots understand LIE and build bases for support the oil indutries support system with the youth of our country. Wake up America before it's too late. 72 yr.old retired US Army 2 wars,24 yrs. service I'm not proud like I was at one time--------
Little leftists all bounding together to support this nutjob who is standing on her son's coffin for some ego trip.
Come on, you people are rooting for the US troops to lose this war.
In your twisted world, you think that to hurt Bush it's worth it to lose the war.
You are scum and so is Cindy. Her son dying serving his nation doesn't make her somehow noble.
I am a Vietnam vet and right now she is dishonoring both her son and me. Does anyone remember 9/11!! If you dont love this country and are not willing to fight and possibly die for the freedoms we have then please find a new country...we dont need slobbering idiots who shame those that do love it here. Her son is a hero but she will see to it that he is not remembered that way ....she needs to go home, remember, grieve, and be proud of him...Bush has noting to answer for in my book,,,,since I have no blogger password to leave my name...I am former Sgt. John W. Swiger 1st/17th Air Calvary...Tampa, Florida
"However, whether most want to admit it or not, this country is at war for our very survival."
At war for our very survival? How dramatic, and yet completely wrong. What does Iraq have to do with the country of the United States of America's survival? Saddam Hussein was no threat to us at all, yet there we still are, wasting BILLIONS of dollars on Halliburton contracts and getting our sons and daughters, friends and neighbors killed. Fanfuckingtastic.
And as my friend RoseBlood would say, I have the nerve to be shocked by the holier-than-thou attitudes of some people who have left comments here.
"give it up, go home and visit the Revlon counter."
As if lack of make-up and her looks have fuck-one to do with anything.
"Get back to work and stop milking the system. I really do not feel like paying her to sit there and protest day in and day out for something that is not worth while. Get a life."
What, is she drawing unemployment insurance by sitting there in the ditch? or are you donating money to her cause and now pissed about it?
"No better way to disrespect her son and what he died for."
What makes you the expert on what disrespects her son?
I should be a psychologist to unerstand how some people think.
You people are brain dead. Being wrong about WMD does not = Lie. Violating 17 U.N. sanctions and being held accountable does equal Iraq War 2. Every day these fine soldiers fight and die over there means it's less likely your art house cinema isn't going to blow during your French noir movie. Wouldn't want you to spill your popcorn.
This lady has had a true lose in her life but she needs to get over it some other way than protesting I dont think her son would be very happy right now. And for her to demand to speak with pres thats crazy I went to Iraq and got my left arm blown off in Baghdad I am still very supportive of Bush. Ive never met him and I would do it all again if i could. She is being selfish and needs to be honoring her son for the hero that he is instead of putting this damper over him.
I believe Cindy Sheehan has earned the right to express her opinion regarding the War in Iraq. She has sacrificed what none of our Republican political leaders have been willing to do. Isn't America a place where we as citizens are still allowed the freedom to express ourselves even if we decide to change our minds?
Why does the main stream media continue to ignore the fact that the President has already met with her. Secondly we need to ask her who has put her up to this? I have a strange feeling she didn't come up with this on her own.
i'M sorry for her loss BUT HER SON did go in to the service under HIS own FREE will!!!
So just where ARE all you "anonymous" people coming from? Or are you just all the same person?
So annoying when people can't come out from behind the "anonymous" curtain.
Typical. Change the subject. Ignor the facts. Blah Blah Blah
Each and every member of the United States military is a volunteer. No member of Congress, the Judicary or the Executive branch has forced any United States citizen to enlist in our military.
One year ago Sheehan was praising Pres. Bush. Now she's allover the front pages and making a big splash. I believe she has been led down the yellow brick road by money and or political activists who are using her. I believe she is a non-entity type of person who has found her way to claim the 15 minutes of fame supposedly alloted to each of us. Unfortunately, no war is a good war. However wars must be fought and they must be fought to win. Activists who "feel" need to get out of the arena and let those with the education and training make the right things happen. I'm a 20 year Navy vet who made five trips in and out of Viet Nam. I'm happy to be one of the ones who returned unscathed. However, I was there prepared to give all to help the rest of you maintain and enjoy the freedoms you have in this wonderful country. If USA is so terrible, please leave and live under the auspices of whichever type of government and leader you believe to be better. Don't destroy my government and way of life. Don't dumb down my children with your social programs vs honest learning. If you can't add to the overall good, then sit down, shut up and let us drive.
Does she think she is Mrs. Ryan?
Being the Mother of 4 sons I can't imagine her pain. It is a shame that she is aligning herself with the ilk she is being supported by. She is taking away her sons' dignity. President Bush did not kill her son, the terrorists did and why do these people not march around protesting them?
Dumb down your children?
How much dumber can we get, this country has one of the worst education systems in the world!
Jaysus! What the fuck does Cindy Sheehan have to do with social programs?
Whole lotta gums flappin'...
Poor Cindys family are embarassed. They put out a press release today apologizing for the unstable far left spit on her own sons grave Cindy Sheehan. She is trying to bring shame on her own hero son. That is what being on the left does to people. It turn them in to non humans.....
You're right. I noticed all the great minds of the world were graduating from the University of Peurto Rico
You wanna link to that press release? I prefer to believe things that can be verified and I hate doing other people's homework for them.
" You're right. I noticed all the great minds of the world were graduating from the University of Peurto Rico"
Hehe, oh the irony. I just LOVE being listed in BlogZone... I really should make people stop being so anonymous though - takes all the fun out.
Moxie, you're such a child. I don't usually answer things like this. I though that my email name would automatically show on my comment added 8/11/05 @ 7:20 p.m. So now you should be able to idenify my comments.
How do you all think we came to have what we have ? Did socialistic methods get us here? I think not. Did it happen that our ancestors came to this country and didn't achieve> I don't think so. It was hard work by individuals and industry that made this country great. Immigrants who came to be "Americans" not to "RAPE" america and those who pay the taxes to support America. You and others like you would like to see the honest hard working people cringe and feel ashamed if we want to make things better for ourselves and our families rather tha smilingly support those who were born here or have come here to suckle at the great teat known as America. Please all who read this, read he book "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, if it doesn't cause you to discard your socialist views, you are hopeless.As I said earlier let those of us who can run the country and maintain our society. The rest of you would be a great help if you'd judt get off the bus.
This Country continues to keep going downhill,everyday. The politicians have linked into the American people, to the point where all they continue to do is argue about Dem/Rep. What's really on the table is," How many sons and daughters have died and how many will die for the Bush Lie! "Something had to be done in Irag, I agree,but after we dealt with Iran,North Korea and Saudia Arabia. Dem/Rep soldiers died in the great wars for what! For the American people to all get played as Suckers? I'm a vet, from the Air Force, but already I'm sure some are saying I'm unpatriotic,don't love freedom!! Why now, if someone speaks out, they must not love freedom? I feel that every person in the United States should allow their children ,upon graduation to enter the military for 2years. If they love freedom so much, prove it. All you people,who truly believe that Bush has not lied!, Write your congress to put this as a bill. You will be astonished, just how fast, they kill that bill. Do people not feel this will lower the employment rate, get kids off the street with no direction, lower the crime rate, give kids a chance to decide their future, plus; plus prove that they love their freedom,they love the USA. Its always been okay, when others are putting up the sacrifice, Just as long as its the poor and middle class. I just want to prove this, because this has nothing to do with Dem/Rep. Make this a law before we critize this lady for the lost of son. Check with those people in Ohio now and see how the feel about this war now, after those 14 soldiers died at one time. It really is sad though, because those terrorists are not hanging out on corners,bars or nightclubs, not playing playstation,etc..., they are growing up and giving the service,if not their life, for what they believe in!!
Moxie,
What I mean by the socialist comments and dumbing down comments is that the mind set of our country is formed by the media and those with socalist inclinations tend to want someone else to do the work, fight the war and provide for them. I'm tired of providing the free ride. It takes fighting, perseverance, hard work and in some case, ultimate sacrifice of ones life to maintain our lifestyle. I certainly agree our schools are horrid. Why? Because they are run by mindless liberals spewing information and running programs that lead to doom of the society. You have to be willing to work and achieve to keep what we have as individuals and as a society. This includes fighting and killing and being killed. Call me a gum flapper all you want, I'll gladly wear the badge.
Where is Karl Rove hiding when "W" needs his advice? If Karl comes out of hiding, he'll tell George, the warrior, to see the lady, and two days later she will be yesterday's news however right she may
Here's what I don't understand about the whole Cindy-Sheehan-Bush-Killed-My-Son thing: Did she forget to realize that with her son becoming a soldier he took on a huge risk of being killed while at war?
People get killed in wars. She's not the only one who has lost a loved one.
Respect your troops, even if you don't support the war.
Yes, I am such a child. I created a blog to say whatever the fuck I want to, and for the most part allow anyone who stops by to say their own piece.
Has everyone forgotten Roosevelt's New Deal? Many social programs created under the New Deal helped bring an end to the Great Depression, so I dunno why everyone's knocking social programs.
Mrs. Sheehan is not alone in this situation. Many soldiers have died in Iraq. Is there a reason to be there? NO. Do i blame Bush for the hole he is digging our country in?YES. Do i think he is a jerk who should be impeached? Yes. I completely agree with Mrs. Sheehan's protest and I hope that all of those other Americans who have lost a loved one in Iraq go and join her. Until Bush can find a reason to be in Iraq I am on Cindy's side.
No, Bush's IQ is to low to hold an intelligent meeting with Ms. Sheehan. WAR IS TERRORISM AND BUSH IS GUILTY OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM JUST LIKE THE RADICAL MUSLIMS. WARNING: DON'T LET THE MILITARY RECRUITERS BULLSHIT YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS INTO JOINING THE MILITARY WITH PSEUDO PROMISES TO FUND THEIR EDUCATION, AND HEALTH CARE FOR YOUR WHOLE FAMILY AND TRAINING, ETC. ETC. ETC. BUSH AND HIS $ AND POWER HUNGRY CRIMINALS HAVE KILLED ENOUGH YOUNG AMERICANS MANY OF WHICH ARE POOR MINORITIES./DT
browse4me,
So all of us liberals contribute nothing to society and expect everyone else to do something for us? It's only liberals that teach in schools? It's so utterly repulsive that us liberals want to preserve the environment, preserve the rights given to us by the Constitution, that we exercise our freedom of expression - our very right to stand on our little soapboxes and shout when we feel something's not right?
My god, we're just awful people.
PS: Don't anyone for one fucking minute think that I do not support the troops as a whole. Yes, I object when parents are slaughtered in front of their children, and yes I object to torturous methods of interrogation when our government can't even bring people to trial. But I have a friend in Iraq RIGHT NOW, and I will be damned if someone is going to come by here and insinuate that I don't support him.
Congratulations dim wit "Broken". You're idiotic post has caused me to leave the blog. I can no longer converse with people 50 points lower on the I.Q. scale, American education BTW. You're questions are easy to answer (would you like it answered in English, French or Spanish-- also American education. VOLUNTEER FORCE!!! I would prefer not to have every walking accident waiting to happen forced into service (we've tried it). I want people in the fighting forces who want to be there. So thanks it's been fun.
OKAY, OKAY NOW. JUST SIMMER DOWN...LET'S STICK WITH SOME FACTS...OF WHICH MOST OF YOU WILL HATE, AND SNARL, THEN SAY I AM A CRAZY PERSON BECAUSE I THINK, AND DISAGREE. THAT BEING SAID, ...
GEORGE "W" MET WITH THIS WOMAN. AND, SHE IS, ( LIKE IT OR NOT ), WELL SUPPORTED BY THE MASTER OF, "LET'S USE AN ISSUE OR PERSONAL TRADGEDY TO M AKE MONEY", MICHAEL MOORE. I SAW ANOTHER MOM FACE-TO-FACE WITH BILL O'REILLY LAST NIGHT. SHE HAD STYLE AND GRACE, SHE DISAGREED, WITH DIGNITY AND SHE WAS TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. SHE WASN'T HANDLED BY THE OPPORTUNISTS. OKAY, THERE YOU HAVE IT. NOW I AWAIT THE ONSLAUGHT OF THOSE WITHOUT REASON.
“I now know he’s sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,” Cindy said after their meeting. “I know he’s sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of faith.”
That is what Cindy said last year when Bush met with her.
I understand she is greiving, but noone mentions that her son JOINED the military on his own, and he reupped for another tour in IRAQ and he served with honor, he believed in what he was doing.
The President met with her last year. Now she is saying things such as he stole the 1st election etc...I think its now politically motivated.
Cindy is the founder or one of them of the Gold Star moms, how about the mom who was refused entry into the group because she wasnt a citizen. This woman lost her son in IRAQ he was an American , yet Cindy's group refused the mom because she wasnt born here. Nice Job...One mothers loss is no greater then anothers.
Ten bucks says Cindy writes a book in the near future.
Hey, i just read the one about how that woman was treated on the Factor with O'reilly. Well, you are right. Hope I am the first to say that...and I hope others won't go after you for it...but they probably will. Oh well.
Well I sure do appreciate everyone stopping by - off to do real-life things for a bit, so don't feel like I'm neglecting my new friends...
PS: couple comments back - Gold Star Mothers DID accept the non-citizen mom into the group.
I think that Sheehan have the right to say whatever she want about her son death. Losing a love one is bad enough, but losing a child is like losing part of your soul. I don't see how you bush ass kissers can sit there and act like the death of these soldiers are ok or suppose to happen. That's bull shi* and you know it. I don't even know why we are over there still fighting in the WAR 1st damn place. Hell we suppose to be fighting for what happen on 9/11 that's all. ALL U ASS HOLES NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER AND OPEN UP YOUR EYES CAUSE BUSH IS KILLING US ALL OFF ONE BY ONE.
Was it Gold Star moms or Gold star moms for Peace that took her in?
I am sorry she lost her son, but noone in the military can say * I never thought I would have to fight anyone* which is what she says her son thought. You know going in first priority is doing what the military leaders say, and since he volunteered to a second tour of Iraq Im sure he knew the ramifications.
Well I have no problem with her protesting the war, and I have no problem with her being angry..Her aim now is political, Bush already met with her after her sons death. She isnt more important then anyone else. She has an opinion and we have heard it. I dont follow Bush 100% but on Iraq I agree, it needs to be done right, we cant just walk away.
Cindy can say and do whatever she wants. He son died for her right to do so. It is up to the individual to choose thier own consince. I happen to think we are doing the correct think in reguards to the war in Iraq with the exception of sacrificing our men to be so politically correct. If we released our forces to do thier job we would be able to leave in 6 months time.
HAVE to respond to:
"proud usaf wife said...
I guess where I wrote,
"If it was ever something that he did not believe in he would leave the service" was over your head.
He is not blindly following orders. Your comment did the same as the the family members, you just questioned the intelligence of the entire US military. As for the Hitler comparison, his agenda was more on the lines of Saddams, to eliminate people that he felt were inferior...hmmmm how many Kurds did Saddam poison?"
Lady, I HATE "Hmmmmmmm" jobs. You're NOT GOING TO GET AWAY with making a statement about Saddam gassing the Kurds WITHOUT someone pointing out where he GOT the gas to do it with! Ronnie RayGun and w's dear old daddy provided Saddam with anything he wanted! Gas. Germ cultures. Superior technology and weaponry. Be as proud as you can be; but don't use the "bad man" crap to justify this war.
This country has been hijacked by a bunch of Pharisees. They claim they know God but look at the fruits of their works. They lied about WMD, they lied about the cost of the war, they lied about Haliburton. they out a CIA agent which could cost many lives, they lied about the cost of Medicare, they discredit Paul O'Neil, they tried to intimidate the senate minority leader with Anthrax in which two postal people died and we have not heard about the investigation, they can't catch Osama who is on a dialysis machine,they knew about the 911 disaster before it happened, they let the oldest artifacts in Iraq be ransacked and probably in good ole American hands, the British tabloids got it right, we Americans as a whole may not be very smart or most do not have a real relationship with Christ. If you did you would be able to see where evil truly resides and it is not just in Iraq. If you are good, you dont have every country in the world hating you. This world has been destabalized in 5 short years. Who you think is responsible. Search your heart, better yet find a closet and kneel down and ask God to open your eyes and reveal the truth.
I agree with this mother's cause 100%, to be exact her methodology for drawing national attention to issue. However, should the president respond to her protest? I am torn about this question because, he hasn't publically responded to other marches or forms of protest that our the outcries of other large group of people that have been impacted by his policies. The president and the national media, who fail to publicize demonstrations which occurred at G8 meetings or even in front of the white house are to blame. Therefore, is this protest more relevant than protest against Bush's energy bill, social security reform, police brutality, ect..? We must put this woman's protest into a larger context of issues and policies that have had catastrophic effects on the American people. Some of which has been grossly ignored while others used as a poplarity/ photo op for Mr. Bush's agenda.
This isnt about religion or my faith in God..I firmly believe in what is being done in Iraq, dont question others faith, untill you talk with God face to face..
My faith in the good in America far outweighs the bad...
This woman DISHONORS her son's memory. Casey Sheehan lived and died for the cause of freedom. She should thank God (and her son) that he died so she can have the freedom to make an ass out of herself! If she loved her son, she would not disgrace his memory and the work he chose freely. Obviously he KNEW that we had to free the world from the horrible murderers in Iraq. George Bush did NOT kill her son, as she says! It is the bastard insurgents who have no respect for freedom or even life itself. I think President Bush should meet with her, just to prove how wrong she is! God Bless America adn God Bless Casey Sheehan!
im sorry 4 her lost
but i think she is a democrate one who at 911 wanted war but now her son did his duity wants to point fingers and i guess that her right as well as mine my grangfather my father myself and my nephew gave her that right my nephew is in iraq now and was also in desert storm i feel 4 her and hate war but u democrats seem to blame bush is it really his fault or the ruler of this world, satan which? 1 john 5:19
I've never read 'blogs' before today, but the AOL Cindy Sheehan link caught my eye. It saddens me to read the various opinions out there and the venomous comments. I'm saddened that Cindy lost her son. But I am also proud of what our armed forces are doing for the people of Iraq. It would be nice if 'Human' could serve in the military and see life from a service member's perspective. Many of us (yes, I'm in the service) are proud of what we do. I am on active duty, married to a military spouse, have several children, and will support them in whatever they choose to do in the future. Conflicts in this world come and go. The information that you have is limited in scope. You know what the press or others that get published want you to know. Unless you have been there, experienced it, etc, you can never know the complete story. And even then, you will never know all the details. Regardless of one's political views, we are all people who want to live in peace. In my opinion, America is the greatest country on this earth. We have so many opportunities that others in this world cannot fathom. And those who can dream, risk their lives to come to this country. For better or worse, our system of government is something to protect. And those of us in the military VOLUNTEERED to serve our country and to protect it from enemies both foreign and domestic. We are not mindless, nor blind. We are not ignorant. And many of us are privy to information that you in the civilian world are not. Nor should you be. But what you should do is support us, not bash us. For whether you like it or not, I am prepared to give my life for this country and our way of life. (Another great thing about America, freedom to choose...) So that my children and their children can have the opportunity to live in a society where they can speak out and not fear being taken away in the night and never be seen again. The opportunity to dream and accomplish all that their hard work will allow them to accomplish. The freedom to believe what they choose to believe and worship how they choose to worship. That is America, and that is why I proudly serve.
Casey Sheehan has the right to protest the war, just as all Americans have the Right. The only reason we invaded Iraq was to gain control of oil.
Until you have lost a son/brother
or daughter/sister to this war you do not understand the magnitude of the loss this woman feels. Her son WOULD NOT be humiliated by her actions. He would be proud of her for standing up for him and the rest of his peers still stranded without armor/food and shelter. Our young men and women are sitting ducks over there.
Have any of you even paid attention to what is going on there right now? Or does patriotism to you mean that you must simply agree to whatever the President says when he says "go to war"...
Start thinking for yourselves. What does this war really mean. Why did we REALLY go into Iraq?
If after you have thought about it and you still believe that it is a true and honorable cause, take YOUR sons and daughters and sign them up.
I know my brother who was lost to this war was not proud of what we were doing there. These young people aren't even sure why we are there.
just a small comment .. godbless the U.S.A. and all the troups who defend this great country!!!.from a formore us marine & vietnam vet
I know Cindy's husband very well. I know that before the war they were very proud of their son and when the war started they supported him fully. The bottom line is they would be extremely proud had their son died for a just cause. We all know that this war was never legit. Casey did not die to protect us Americans, he died because Bush lied.
The end of any life is saddening. The violent end of a life is tragic. The violent end of a solders life in the line of duty is all of the above and heroic as well. The death of Cindy Sheehan son, like all the sons who died in the service of our country is heart rendering.
Cindy Sheehan crusade is pure political theater and is a disservice to her, her son’s memory all of our fallen heroes and all active duty military. It is every citizen’s right to question the decisions of their government, but let’s remember this war was approved by every level our government, and that her son was a volunteer. President Bush has honored every fallen hero and has acted as a competent commander and chief. The obvious truth that Cindy Sheehan is using her son’s memory as a political ploy is very saddening. We should be focusing all our efforts on the vicious killers who do not want to see freedom prevail in the Middle East, rather than posturing to gain political advantage.
Captain Wary USAF
Welcome home marine :)
I have lost family and friends in Nam, I have had family in Iraq 1 and Iraq 2..I pray they come home soon,noone wants a war, and since not one barrel or pint of OIL has come from Iraq yet saying it is for oil is just mindless.
Cindy has a political agenda,that much is clear. I dont say she isnt hurting over her loss, but she cannot say the ones who died believing what they were doing was right for other human beings was wrong.
God Bless all the troops who served before, who serve now and who will serve in the future.
I am sorry her son died. How willing are we to give up our way of life? That's why we are fighting. I don't see everyone rushing to move to mass transit, start walking, sharing a ride. We ignored the situation with the Jews and Hitler look what happened. Bottom line--Her son was a soldier. Sometime Soldiers die. Soldier's fight wars. Soldiers go where their Commander's send them. They don't like the job they should have done something else.
Her right to stand outside the President's ranch day in and day out is the reason her son fought. He fought so that I could get up everyday and have stability and live relatively care free in this great nation. He fought so we did not have another Hitler.
Anonymous said...
HEY, WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE A FREE COUNTRY, AND THE PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSE TO BE WORKING FOR US SO YES HE SHOULD HAVE TIME FOR A MOTHER WHOSE SON DIED. NO MATTER WHAT SHE BELIEVES. AND THE PEOPLE WHO CRITIZE HER...WELL...IGNORE THE JUDEMENTAL AND TELL THEM TO GET A LIFE.
Actually, he already met with her. If he met with her again, then he should meet with the other 1800 families who have lost someone, and frankly, she is hostile, and there is nothing on earth, and I mean nothing he could say that she would be satisfied with.
Yes Bush has met with her and now she wants to talk again. I agree she will never be satisfied, but that is a mothers pain.
What irks me is in her blog she states * why didnt he make his daughters enlist*, well I think maybe its because it is a voluntary military and not a draft.
Her son chose the military, he was not drafted.I firmly believe she is using her grief to further an agenda . She remarked in one story that he stole the first election , so that gives me a good idea its now totally political.
My heart goes out to her for her loss, but the rest is just bs.
How can you pull the soldiers out and say that by doing so will selfishly and truly be the only way to honor your son. What about the other soldiers who have died over their and their famalies say that the best way to honor their loved one is to complete what we are trying to accomplish over there. People might not agree with why we went over there and that sure as hell doesnt change the fact that we are over there now. If we are going to be over there and lose american lives than we should honor them by following through with what they were trying to accomplish not completely undermind everything we have done by pulling out now and turn a wounded and stumbling animal back to the predators who are willing to kill 300,000 of their own countrymen just because those people dont come from the same heritage as the dictator that rules them. Everyone needs to stop listening to what the media has to say and start finding out the facts before they just say that we are over there for the wrong reasons. 90% of the people attacking us are not iraqi's they are from surrounding countries. You never focus in on how these people killed 10 iraqi soldiers and 20 civilians and the thousands of iraqis that step up to take the place of their fallen comrades and they stand side by side with us to strengthen their own country. All we do is act selfishly and and think about the one American who didnt come home. What about those 30 others who died. Do you not feel that they have families as well, loved ones that they will never see again? We have built hundreds of schools for their children to finally get an education for once in their lives. People need to stop thinking about them selves so much. Freedom is not free and never will be. It will take that 1 out of every 100 americans to stand up and take responsibility for protecting our right to sit here and bitch and be selfish and guess what? it may require the sacrafice of someones life in order to ensure that and if it takes my life to know that my family will be able to safely sleep in their beds at night than I will be proud to sacrifice my own life for MY COUNTRY, MY FAMILY, THE PEOPLE, AND THEIR RIGHTS!
Obviously, I am not a man of faith (ha, ha). One curious thing I'm finding throughout this dialogue is the beautiful paradox posed by those previously that appear to be in support of "the war." I have a feeling they are probably of some Christian denomination... so why are we arguing about this lady who's son died? Isn't the real crux of the matter the fact that there is no such thing as a just war? There seems to be a constant spin making this war just or unjust based on evidence or lack of evidence... the freedom of the Iraqi people... the security of America. Have you ever noticed that countries that stay out of this crap (i.e.- Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc., etc.) seem to be doing quite well by not being at war? Amazing enough, they're basically socialist countries as well. Somebody much eariler referred to Eisenhauer, I'm guessing the "military industrial complex" thing and all. Yes, that is where we are now... but is it really any worse that what this messed up country has been doing all along? I'm not proud to be an American in these times and I have no intention of going elsewhere. I intend on being a part of a movement that slowly brings logic and peace to the world in a way that only America (the richest country in the world) could.
How can we let Saddam be so right?
In the days prior to the military invasion of Iraq, Sadamm bragged to the world that the US public did not have the "stomach" for a long war. That we would cringe at the death toll, the photos of the mayhem and the mourning families. He said we would be clamoring for "an exit strategy" before we even got a good start on the war. Unfortunately, he was right and the news media plays into our enemy's hands.
Oh, that more could remember the attack at Pearl Harbor and the sense of patriotism and sacrifice suffered by all to win WW II. The attacks on September 11, 2001 were much more savage than that on the US Navy in Hawaii. The entire citizenry sacrificed and owned the involvement, wept at the Gold Stars hanging in neighborhood windows with some in multiples of three and four. Guess what? We won that war. We did not have to apologize to anyone for not having resolve and conviction about our cause.
What is wrong with the people who do not understand that "Loose lips sink ships." It is these loose lips using different words that will defeat us, as in Vietnam, if they continue to flutter and flap. Hanoi was ready to surrender until the homeland dissenters lost the war for our soldiers on the front lines. Then all Hanoi had to do was wait for the pull out, which we obliged them by doing.
History lessons are to be learned from, not repeated.