There's a Reason We Oppose Him
Well, screw that. I love America, and the reason I criticize this administration is because I will be damned if I will watch the country I love destroyed from within by spoiled rich bastards with overdeveloped senses of entitlement. And I refuse to sit idly by and say nothing while our image around the world is irrevocably tarnished by an administration that had not only chosen war as the first resort while insisting it would be the last, but had already begun to fight it long before addressing either Congress or the UN.
Troop morale in Iraq is low, I agree. But it is not, as some have suggested here, because Democrats are opposing the war. No, it is because they have seen nearly two thousand of their comrades killed and thousands more wounded in what we were told would be a "cakewalk", among other rosy predictions. We were told they would be greeted as "liberators", where they are now clearly seen as occupiers. They were told "Mission Accomplished" and yet are still mired in a vicious guerilla war with no end in sight. They fight a well-armed insurgency because those in power had no post-invasion plan to secure the country, or the stockpiles of arms and ammunition that had, until the invasion, been secured by the UN. They face an increasingly hostile citizenry because there were not enough troops sent with the initial invasion to maintain order and secure the country's infrastructure (though the oil ministry seemed to be quite the priority). The following quote and link illustrate the inability (or unwillingness) of those in power to sufficiently plan for the aftermath of the invasion, despite repeated advice from top military advisors to do just that.
A similar warning came from Thomas Pickering, who had served the first President Bush as UN ambassador and had headed up a Council on Foreign Relations study on Iraq which concluded that the U.S. mission had lacked "vision and strategy." Pickering, too, urged Bush to make clear that the current U.S. deployment of some 200,000 troops in and around Iraq would have to be maintained for along time to come. Or, as General John Abizaid, who will assume command of the Iraq mission from the retiring General Tommy Franks next month, put it in congressional testimony this week, "for the foreseeable future." For obvious domestic political reasons, the Bush Administration going into the war had downplayed the scale and duration of a post-war occupation mission.
When then-Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki told legislators that such a mission would require several hundred thousand U.S. troops, his assessment had been immediately dismissed by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz as "wildly off the mark." Wolfowitz explained that "I am reasonably certain that (the Iraqi people) will greet us as liberators, and that will help us to keep requirements down." Six weeks ago, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld was still suggesting the U.S. force in Iraq could be reduced to 30,000 by the end of the year. But the prevailing assessment in Washington appears to be shifting to the idea of afigure closer to Shinseki's.
http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,461462,00.html
So don't tell me that the troops in Iraq even have the time to notice what I think of the president and his elite. They're too busy trying to stay alive, since those in power couldn't even manage to properly equip them for this war. And it is because all this is happening to American troops that I oppose the war and those who chose to start it. It is because I support our troops that I want them brought home now, and removed from a situation where their hopes for survival diminish daily.
Because, frankly, we could also use them here, especially those in the National Guard. We have been told time and again that the Bush administration is making us safer, that they are doing everything in their power to prevent another 9/11. But, in clear dismissal of nearly all the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, our ports are still unsecured, our chemical and nuclear facilities are vulnerable to attack and the celebrated Department of Homeland Security has yet to get its act together. It has squandered its budget, failed to organize the various agencies under its watch and functioned largely as an on-demand fear monger with threat-level elevations dictated by the administration, rather than the actual intelligence.
Some who comment on this site have attempted to paraphrase the "Bush lied, people died" slogan into "Newsweek lied, people died", as though the editors of that magazine presented blatant falsehoods that led directly to people's deaths. No. While it is true that the Newsweek article depended on an unreliable source for certain details, the core facts of the article are no longer in dispute and have, in fact, been verified by the Pentagon. The riots that led to those deaths were over the mistreatment of the Koran by interrogators at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere. The specifics are irrelevant. It was the abuse of the Koran that caused the riots, and that abuse (regardless of its specific form) did occur. But, of course, the best way to distract people from an unflattering truth is to focus on the discrepancies in the source.
I oppose an administration that wraps itself in the cloak of moral values and shows itself to be anything but moral. It is immoral to deny an entire segment of the American people their right to the pursuit of happiness by seeking to deny them the right to marry. It is immoral to starve social programs that give needed aid to the poor (children and the elderly in particular) in order to enable tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the wealthiest citizens. It is immoral to promote the notion of a Social Security crisis and then offer nothing more than the vagaries of the stock market as a solution, which would do much to line the pockets of Wall Street brokerage firms, but do little to guarantee economic security for future generations of retirees. It is immoral to use the suffering of one woman to distract the country from your own failures and corruption, citing a belief in a "culture of life" after using lies and deceit to lead the nation into a war that has resulted in nothing but death. It is immoral to systematically remove environmental protections while insisting those same actions will strengthen them (The "Clear Skies" and "Healthy Forests" initiatives, to name two).
I am an American citizen, and I love my country. And it is because I love my country that I am performing one of my most essential duties as an American citizen. I am demanding accountability from my leaders when I believe they are acting counter to the best interests of America.
We have been lied to, we have been pandered to and we have been set one against the other, Republican against Democrat, liberal against conservative, all to the detriment of this great country.
* Special thanks to Moxie for much of the research included in this post.






































25 Comments:
Fantastic post Mox. I'm linking up and sending folks your way.
Blog on Sister.
Can I get an Amen ...I said can CAN I GET AN AMEN...People uH! when your country need you! HEh! and you knooooooow now ,Yeah! what you didn't know then, say what ? How can you stand Idley by and watch and defend the things you now NEED! to get out and amend...If you want to fix tommorow! you got to fix today! but you can't fix today if you wont' stand up UH! ...like a man, ONE TIME! ...and admit the mistakes that where made?
Kid Bastard gets the props for this post, I just helped gather linkage. I love my man.
Good post. Criticizing the President doesn't make a traitor. Selling your nation's jobs overseas, turning your future generations into bullet stoppers because you have a vendetta and turning control of the nation over to corporations all constitute treason. Questioning the anti-American who does these things, even if he has managed to steal the White House, does not constitute hating once's nation. On the contrary, standing up to the Bushbats is the most patriotic thing one can do these days. Anyone who believes otherwise is a brainwashed enemy of the state, be they American or foreign.
The rhetoric continues.
First off, you can link to all the leftist sites until one’s mouse finger gets sore.
This does not verify the content.
I recall reading a headline in back in the days of the space race that we were "training midgets" in clothes dryers to prep them for space travel.
I have yet to see a midget in space. (not that I have anything against midgets)
One can claim or "report" the glass is half empty or full at best reliability.
Secondly,
in regard to loving one’s Nation and not being Anti American, I learnt at an early age about our Freedoms of speech, also taught discretion.
Freedom requires some sense of responsibility.
It does not mean that one has a right to be foul mouthed.
It’s just plain old fashioned respect that one does not mock our President or paint his face yellow in public.
I do not understand the concept of taxing the rich more.
A poor person never has offered me Employment!
A flat tax would be the fairest.
I see an agenda being pushed that is biased.
Bush has more "walks" of life in his Administration than any other in History.
The side pushing this agenda and pointing the fingers are the ones who are the offenders.
Why does the left use "Code Names"
How do expect to have a voice and be counted while hiding behind a cartoon persona.
John, the only thing you stated that I agree with is the flat tax... but that will never happen, because rich people "donate" to politicians to help them keep more of their money.
Beyond that, you act as though "lefties" made up all the stuff referenced in KB's post. How you can deny that these things were said by the very people who's "side" you say you are on is astounding. Must everything be videotaped by 100 different people before you will believe they were said or done?
www.crooksandliars.com does a pretty good job of documenting videos, so perhaps you can verify some if it through them.
I have the right to be foul mouthed if I want to, just as YOU have the right to not visit my website. I do wonder why you visit so often, if such things offend your delicate sensibilities.
And I have the right to paint the face of the president yellow if I want (BTW, that isn't even my graphic - click the link to go to the originator). Just like right wingnuts have the right to photoshop Hillary in some sort of compromising position. Just because she doesn't happen to be president doesn't mean she doesn't deserve a certain level of respect as a human being, but I respect their right to do it.
Why does the left use code names? Do you mean screen names? I'll tell you why *I* do. It's because I have a website and my email address is available to the public. If someone tried hard enough, they could probably find out who I was in real life, I just prefer to make it as difficult as possible for all the whackjobs out there. And, quite frankly, your real name could be Joe Smith - I don't see you offering up an email address or website. john RIchards could just as easily be a "code name". How odd that you would say something that could easily be applied to you as well. Guess that's just part of denial.
Come on back and act superior again if you wish, but you're not making very good arguements that can't easily be pointed right back at you. Have a good one!
John, I made a point of linking to references that were not simply other "leftist" blogs or fringe publications. Most of my references are online versions of newspapers like the LA Times or USA Today. Any overly partisan sources linked to in that post contained links to original source material or independent verification.
You are, however, welcome to find evidence to discredit my statements, and it would be preferable that you use sources similar to my own. In other words, actual news sources, rather than right-wing blogs or rant sites. If you do link to something partisan, I'll expect to find links to original sources or independent verification.
As far as being foul-mouthed, I think the worst language I use in my post is the word "bastards". And I use a "code name" as you put it so I don't have to deal with fringe cases from both ends of the political spectrum flooding my inbox with idiot mail.
As for the tone of my rhetoric regarding the president, I call things as I see them. I believe in calling an arrogant liar an arrogant liar. Even if, no ESPECIALLY if he's the president.
"Why does the left use "Code Names""
You're kidding, right? Somehow, not posting a full name, address, telephone number, ect has something to do with our opinion on the current state of america.
First of, only absolute idiots use their full, real name on the internet. Information is open to anyone and everyone, just by visiting this site. even if information is 'secure', there is still a few bytes of data somewhere, on some server, that can be accessed at any time.
Seccond of all, this is relevent how? No.. seriously, humor me on this. I want to know how not leaving a real name makes a person any less creditable. Go ahead, take a shot. Your best shot. Yes, an open invitation. Even better, a dare. I dare you to give me a resonable excuse for your argument.
This should be a laugh or two.
Also, fowl mothed? Oh my lord, he said a naughty word, what will my sensitive, burning ears do now. I have been poisoned by the words of the devil!
Seriously, it's no big deal. Stop acting like a first grader hearing the word fuck for the first time. Not like he's being obsene, using a naughty word ever other sentence even.
"First off, you can link to all the leftist sites until one’s mouse finger gets sore."
Ok, so any source not 100 percent pro bush is 100 percent lying? Wake up, hun. That's all I can say.
Ooh, one last thing... Why do you waste your time reading and arguing on a site you obviously hate, with people you hate, while being surrounded by people you hate. You do have permission to tute your own trumpet on any one of the millions of republican blogs, no? What makes you think any of your irrational arguments will change anyone's mind here?
Basically... why don't you stick to your own kind, k hun?
And kid, expect a link to this on my blog, great work!
You know that whole code names things well first of all its something every one does unless they have some celeb status like Ann Coulter. Now I spent part of my day today trying to engage with bloggers on the right but most of the sites I found (and I'm going to have to search again) reserve the right to censor your post or want you to join as if their screening just who is going to be posting as if to OK the agenda. Now, hasn't that been the way all along, screening audiences to have one opinion only for press confrences, hiring spineless shmucks like Alan Colmes and claiming he's some sort of Democrat as opposed to an artistic foil, and simply writing off some of the most well educated minds in America as stupid because they don't agree. Wake up man its all about the segregation of thought so that only side is ever heard. And for once I give props to Brash Limburg for running a site on the "right" where both sides can converse, unfortunately most of the Right Turn links listed on his blog do not offer that sort of bi-partisan participation, but at any rate thank you. and if any one knows of a righty site that is open to free speech besides Brash's please let me know I want to talk to those folks too.
BYOC, feel free to engage me on my site if you feel compelled to do so. I don't do the catfight thing other conservative bloggers do.
Kid Bastard, this was excellent. I supported the Iraq war, still do for the most part. However, I can't disagree with most of what you've written here and what I'm more impressed by is the manner in which it was presented. I think the debate between bloggers, pundits and politicians should be handled with class and dignity rather than the Ann Coulter/Air America WWE style crap that passes for debate these days.
You will always have people with diametrically oppositional views of life but that should not make them enemies nor should mean that both parties should treat each other with disrepect. My dad is pretty liberal and hates religion and though we argue constantly, there's a mutual respect (usually) that allows us to hear others point of view knowing full well we will still not agree.
Keep up the good work, both of you.
Thank you Mark, I took a look and I 'll be sure to swing by and comment from time to time, I like your blogs they're very well thought out, rational and open, and honestly I wouldn't have expected to find any thing less after seeing the style your participation here.
If I didn't already link to you, I'd do it now. I've lived overseas for a long time now and don'
t really understand what happened stateside over the years. But with you around, there's hope.
Awww, thanks you guys. I appreciate the kind words, and the links.
Cattrin Said
"Basically... why don't you stick to your own kind, k hun?"
Guess I will. I am just a 6'3" middle aged white cracker.
Didn't think that Condi and I looked alike.
Dean and Durbin is a fair representation of your party
"I have a website and my email address is available to the public. If someone tried hard enough, they could probably find out who I was in real life..."
It wasn't that hard. But Ms. Coulter, you're even weirder than I thought.
John-
I think Cattrin is expressing her feeling that you rarely add anything to the conversation that encourages actual discussion. Most of what I read from you is condemnation, denial and unwillingness to consider what is being posted as having even a hint of truth. With that kind of attitude, I don't understand why you keep returning here. You obviously think we're all just wackos or something, so why do you waste your time?
As for your racist reference, I'm curious as to why you would make the assumption that her encouraging you to stick to your own kind has anything to do with the color of your skin. While her words may sound harsh, I have no doubt she was encouraging you to frequent hardline right wing websites, since you appear to share their views. So, in that respect, you and Condi do look alike.
Remember John, you're free to hang out here or not, but I'd really recommend that if you want to challenge information in a post, back it up with a source that is the least partisan you can find since I do try and do the same. Otherwise you come across as a big talking head that will tend to be dismissed.
It wasn't that hard. But Ms. Coulter, you're even weirder than I thought.
DAMMIT! They're on to me...
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."
Theodore Roosevelt
Excellent post, Mr. Bastard, as usual.
Moxiegrrl, I offer my sincere and hearty "right on" to your post. I have echoed these sentiments myself, and I've engaged in debates in right-wing blogs in the hopes of making these points (for what it's worth). You and Kid Bastard did a wonderful job of making a statement that address the BFEE on issues both at home and abroad. The question that remains, for me, is why they really needed to take out Iraq. I have my suspicions, but even then, they could have just cozied up to Saddam Hussein as they did in the past. I mean, geez, a few months prior to 9/11, they gave him $43 million!
All the things you mention warrant the removal of the Bush regime. I think there are other reasons, too, as I am one of those who believes that 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by the Bushes and their PNAC associates. But you know what? I am without hope that we will see a fair election in 2008. They'll find a way to maintain their position of power, and the world will be the worse for it.
Oh SheaNC, don't say it! If there's no hope for a fair election, then we'll either have to leave the country or fall in line behind the rest of the sheep. I can be a good sheep sometimes, but I still want to be a black one.
Very nice manifesto Kid, sorry I missed most of the discussion about it.
It's a lot to address and I'm not really up to the task at the moment, but I'd like to engage you on the main theme. I was out of town this weekend and able to catch up on a lot of reading, mostly WWII stuff, and was struck by some of the similarities and differences from today's conflict.
To make it simple, opposition to WWII came from the isolationist wing of the Republican party (still alive and well in the form of Pat Buchanan who's back in favor with all the right people nowadays). That's certainly not the case with today's anti-war movement, but there's no clear theme either. The Right generally interprets it as anti-Americanism (and people like Durbin are making the case), but you're rejecting that explanation. There's a lot of pacifists in the camp, and I can respect that, but it certainly doesn't count for the vocal majority. Could it be anti-Bushism, ie anything that makes Bush look bad is good? I'm just at a loss and would like to know your thoughts.
Okay, I have to start by saying that equating the Iraq war with WWII goes beyond hyperbole to the point of being utterly ridiculous. Hitler was in a position to actually conquer Europe, and Japan was making a serious go of taking all of Asia, so the threat posed by the Axis powers was genuine and serious. Saddam Hussein was a threat to no one but his own people. He had no WMD, no nuclear program and no connection to 9/11. He was most definitely no threat to us. So, I'd say the only similarity is that both wars involved the use of bullets.
However, to answer your question, I believe the current anti-war movement is multi-faceted. There are some pacifists, some who feel the invasion was sold to us on false pretense, those who did support it initially but now view it as unwinnable and yes, I'm sure there are also those who oppose the war for no other reason than they hate George W Bush. Undoubtedly, there are plenty of other reasons for opposing the war as well, though I doubt there are many strict isolationists among the movement at this point.
For myself, I think I've made my reasons plain. I'm not really what one would consider a pacifist, and it's not simple hatred of Bush. I believe that this war was entirely unnecessary, has not made the US or the world any safer and has hampered our efforts at seriously combating terrorism by creating a rallying point for terrorist recruitment. And I also believe that it has made it difficult for the US to use military action in the future against a nation that may actually be a true threat to us by ruining our credibility with our allies around the world.
Kid,
I'm not sure the comparison is as far-fetched as you say (tell Kuwait and Iran that Saddam wasn't a threat). That said, obviously we're talking about a large differece in scale, although the anti-war crowd back then confidently asserted that the Axis was no threat to the US if we stayed out.
Our difference of opinion on the war are deep enough that it won't be resolved in the comments section, but you articulated your position well and I can see where you're coming from.
I could make a comment or two regarding Kuwait and Iran, but why make trouble when we're getting along so well? ;)
And I do think we've articulated our positions pretty clearly, and while neither has been swayed by the other, we can at least agree to disagree.
Looking forward to our next debate.
Kid B - Superb post. Piggybacking your points to add another, many don't realize (or conveniently forget) that Bush committed an impeachable offense by waging this war when, in fact, Iraq did not pose an imminent threat to the United States.
It's time for partisanship to be set aside and rosy glasses removed enmass. Bush needs to be impeached and we need to send a global message that we're ready to start the overdue healing process both here and abroad.
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